
Title | : | Views from the Real World |
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ISBN | : | 0140190643 |
ISBN-10 | : | 9780140190649 |
Language | : | English |
Format Type | : | Paperback |
Number of Pages | : | 288 |
Publication | : | First published January 28, 1973 |
Views from the Real World Reviews
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Esta obra escrita por algunos de sus alumnos que tomaron notas durante varias conferencias y conversaciones con Gurdjieff, contiene los principios fundamentales de sus enseñanzas, en lo que se llegó a conocer como “el Cuarto Camino”. Se trata de una síntesis que el mismo Gurdjieff fué construyendo en su recorrido y exploración de enseñanzas antiguas por diversos lugares.
Aunque se trata de una obra introductoria considero que los conceptos que se explican aquí, no podrán ser comprendidos completamente a menos que se tengan ciertos conocimientos y vivido experiencias previas. De hecho este es un principio fundamental que explica Gurdjieff: El conocimiento solo es información si no es acompañado de la experiencia. Pero esto podría parecer un callejón sin salida, porque ¿Cómo comprender algo que no se ha experimentado sin saber algo antes de esto?.
Para ello Gurdjieff expone varios principios que son el fundamento de su enseñanza: la estructura del hombre, de la mente, la realidad, y el universo: los múltiples “yoes”, los tres centros motor, emocional e intelectual que corresponden a su vez a tres máquinas, la ley de tres, la ley de siete, las influencias planetarias, externas e internas, el hombre como una máquina, la observación de si, el uso de la energía interna, el aparato formatorio, la esencia y la personalidad, las tres clases de alimento, las octavas, el recuerdo de sí, el cuerpo astral, así como una serie de técnicas para lograr "el recuerdo de si". La meta de la enseñanza por medio del “trabajo” es desarrollar nuestra ALMA. Gurdjieff afirma que con su método no todos tendrán la capacidad de comprender y la voluntad de emprender esta búsqueda.
Es una obra introductoria, que describe diversos principios que se presentan de manera fragmentada por lo que es recomendable se complementen con otras obras relacionadas con el “Cuarto Camino” de otros autores. A mí me pareció un buen libro, que curiosamente no fue el primero que leí para entender a Gurdjieff. Comencé leyendo otras obras de Ouspensky y de otros autores anónimos, así como haber asistido a una serie de varias conferencias. Por eso considero que no es sencillo comprender esta obra y las demás de Gurdjieff, a menos que realmente haya un interés genuino, cito: “Repito, parto del punto de que se supone que los aquí presentes ya han realizado algún trabajo preparatorio, han asistido a conferencias, han hecho intentos de trabajar sobre sí mismos y cosas por el estilo”.
Perspectivas desde el Mundo Real es una obra muy recomendable que despierta el deseo de aprender más y de profundizar y experimentar en el conocimiento de sí y de una búsqueda genuina de la comprensión de la realidad. -
"Here there are neither Russians nor English, Jews nor Christians, but only those who pursue one aim—to be able to be."
This aphorism, one of thirty-eight inscribed on the walls of the Study House at the Prieure, describes the heart of the Gurdjieff work in a nutshell: to be able to be.
The early talks of Gurdjieff which are included in this book may serve as yet another door through which one may enter a study of the Gurdjieff ideas. These essays focus on topics as diverse as self-observation, the education of children, essence and personality, and the two rivers. No examination of the Gurdjieff work is complete without the inclusion of this volume. -
This is my favorite Gurdjieff book. It gave a flavor for his earlier teachings and was a good overall introduction to his body of wisdom.
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George Ivanovich Gurdjieff continues to change the world long after his passing. This book reveals his most basic teachings and message to us all.
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I like reading Gurdjieff - always makes me think.
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Interesting
Starts off with some implausible conversations. Just plain wrong science and some fluffy metaphysics. - the usual ontological combinatorics. But then it settles down to attempted recollections of what Guirdieff had to say - in public talks and teaching at his institute. Primarily psychological for want of a better word and always interesting. Maybe even important. We can of course regard the flights of cosmological, chemical and even musical fantasies as instructive allegories. -
3 3/4 stars
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Bu kitabı okumamın sebebi Gurdjieff'in beni benden alan ve okuduğum ilk kitabı olan Olağanüstü İnsanlarla Karşılaşmalar idi. Bir seyahatnameyi andıran kitap ruhsallık hakkında da çaktırmadan pek çok şey gösteriyor, insana felsefe yapmayı öğretiyordu.
Lakin bu kitaba, Gerçek Dünyadan Manzaralar'a gelirsek yaşadığım tam bir hüsran. Şeylere, dinamiklere, insan davranışlarına, doğa davranışlarına çok materyalistik bir bakış açısıyla açıklamalar getiriyor, evrendeki makrodan mikroya tekrar eden ve her ölçekte değişmeden gözlemlenebilen davranış motiflerini anlatıyor. Yer yer can alıcı bir soruya, probleme gelindiğinde, tam işinize yarayacak kullanılabilir bir cevap alacak oluyorsunuz ki, bu defa konu atlanıyor.
Okuduğum önceki kitabında Gurdjieff'in bende yarattığı hayranlığın damlasını bu kitapta alamadım. Bununla birlikte yine de Gurdjieff'in zekasına, gözlem ve problem çözme gücüne lafım yok. Zehir gibi bir varlık.
Kitabın başları, anlatıcının Gurdjieff ile gizemli ve ilk buluşması kitabın okunması en keyifli yerleriydi. -
Ultimate read. One of the most readable books on Gurdjieff's teachings.
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5 stars is very little.
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“Remember you come here having already understood the necessity of struggling with yourself — only with yourself. Therefore thank everyone who gives you the opportunity.”
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Gurdjieff has always amazed me with the knowledge of his higher levels of understanding. You can find these topics: the meaning of his ancient dances, conditions of sleeping people, many 'I's in us, the story of a horse - driver- master. He also explains the meaning of objective art that human beings have lost. I really like the idea of 3 centers we have and G. enlightens the subject on how to accumulate the energy between these three centers and 'be' at the moment. He says that when you stuck in mind you have to remember other centers to bring back your attention to the moment. I'm sure you will find a much more interesting conversation. I highly recommended it.
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Excellent primer on many of the ideas presented in the Gurdjieff work (and series). Written in easy to understand language and stories, much like ISOTM. There is much material here to work on, and a lot of concepts to take away and explore practically. Highly recommended after ISOTM, or Gurdjieff's other self-written books.
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I do not have many other books to compare but I really enjoyed it.
It could get kind of repetitive sometimes, but some of the things that are repeated need a certain time to get understood by our thinking.
The beginning of the book is one of the catchiest things I have read in a while.
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This book will change the way you look at your reactions to everything. Many people start reading Gurdjieff through his book Meetings with Remarkable Men, while others may have read works by Ouspensky, one of his disciples. Timeless observations about human nature and our mechanical reactions.
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What can i say about gurdjieff? Genius itself the biggest philosophy teacher of mine. Would recommend this book for all the people. Take care!
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loved the old proverbs and sayings
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Edition: First Edition
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Paperback
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